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Naysayers of Personal Finance & What to Do About Them

 

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There are always those people that kill your vibe. The ones where, when you explain some things you’re doing, they instantly retort against it. Sometimes, certain topics get more of an adverse reaction than others. Personal finance is one of them.

Talking about money makes many people nervous. Money management, saving, making more, and investing aren’t talked about much because for some reason it was decided to be a hush hush type of topic.

It’s interesting (and sometimes heartbreaking) when people brush off the discussion of money. When it comes to the naysayers of personal finance and money talk, I’ve experienced and learned of the different kinds of people who are so resistant to talking about money. Let’s take a look at them.

1. The Yolo (You Only Live Once) person

This is a big problem with millennials and people my age (I’m 21). Whenever the topic of saving and budgeting comes up, the YOLO person throws up their arms.

“You only live once! I want to enjoy my life, not have to restrict myself! I could die tomorrow for all I know!”

Yes, you could die tomorrow, but there is a greater possibility of you living much longer. Don’t you want to make sure you have a good financial foundation to enjoy your later years as well?

They make lots of impulse purchases and cover with the guise of “treating themselves” or “buying things that they need”. These are the “treat yo self” people. The type of people who may need to get better at being more intentional with their money and seeing the long-term.

The YOLO person fails to see money management as an opportunity rather than sacrifice [LINK]. They don’t understand it’s possible to live a good life and financially prepare for the future. These two are not mutually exclusive!

2. The “Thanks Obama” person

The title doesn’t have much to actually do with Obama, haha, it’s more discussing a particular mindset. A “thanks Obama” person is someone who complains about their situation and attributes their problems towards other things rather than focusing on actively working to better themselves.

They’re the ones who would rather hope for getting on a loan forgiveness program rather than look for ways to pay off their loans. They’re the ones who don’t know how to take the meaning of something and and shift it to fit their needs and goals.

How often have you read articles on income reports, people paying off big amounts of debt, working lucrative side jobs and so forth? On those articles, there is usually always someone in the comments who says how the situation won’t work for them.

I have three kids and a mortgage, there is no time for a second job! 

I only make $12 an hour, there is no way I can pay off my debt faster!

This person paid off 8,000 of debt in three months? That’s not possible for me!

This type of person focuses on the exact details of the above example stories, rather than focusing on the overall lesson: having a reason behind doing what you’re doing and making a plan that works for your situation.

3. The “On a better day” person

Most often known as a person who always says “I’ll do it tomorrow”, a “on a better day” person waits to get started. They believe things in their life aren’t in order at the moment and they will focus on their financial goals “on a better day”.

They constantly talk about how they don’t have this or that to get started or are too busy right now. Often times, they cast this mindset on others and try to guilt them.

“You run your own online business? Well I could run one too if I had a fancy laptop like yours.”

“You maxed out your Roth IRA this year? Well I have too many bills, I couldn’t possibly do that. Maybe when I start making more money…” 

4. The Overly Optimist

There is no need to build a good size emergency fund, right? Things will work themselves out. That debt will eventually be paid off. A big experience I had with this was when I was in college and talked with other people about their student loan debt.

“Oh, I’m not focused on it. I’ll worry about it when I graduate”

Besides rolling my eyes at the statement, my college self thought maybe it was just people not being exposed to the real world as the reason for this overly optimistic attitude. Nope! Being out of university now, I realize even lots of people in the real world do it.

They don’t pay their credit cards in full every month, they don’t make bigger payments towards their student loans, and they don’t focus on building up a bigger emergency fund. I mean, having $1,400 in a savings account is a good enough emergency fund, right? Right…


These types of people can bad for your finances. They may be great people, wonderful friends, and so forth, but they’re bad with money. How can you do about them?

Explain your ‘why’ and provide an example. 

The types of people above don’t have a definite ‘why’ behind their personal finance, so that’s why they see things like saving, investing, and making more money as not something worthwhile to focus on.

You could tell them your reasoning in dealing with personal finance and what you hope to get out of what you’re doing.

“I’m practicing frugality in terms of cutting my cable bill and limiting dining out. Nothing too extreme. I want to use the money I save to take that vacation to France I’ve always wanted to do.” 

“I’m working a second job as an Uber driver. I’m using the extra money to pay off my student loan debt. I want to pay it off faster so I can focus more on my passion project of painting, without having to worry about debt.”

“I made a budget for myself. I want to see where my money goes every month so I can see where to save. I want to use the saved money to put towards a down payment on a house.”

A lot of times, people just need to be explained why something might be beneficial to them. They may see personal finance as some daunting, big task. It doesn’t it have to be.

Everyone starts somewhere. It all starts with one thing. Doing one thing every day and working towards building a more solid foundation.

 

Have you encountered naysayers of personal finance and money management? What did you do about it? 

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What an Indie Filmmaker Taught Me About Money

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Last month I got to attend the South by Southwest 2016 festival. It was awesome and being my second time attending, it felt better this time around than the first. I got to revisit one of my favorite cities, Austin, and attend several interactive panels and film screenings. The big thing making it more enjoyable this time around was that I actually knew more about the panels and what to attend. Plus, I got more knowledgable about all the free things and food being given out this time around! Wooo!

The best thing I got to do was attend a keynote session lead by independent filmmaker Joe Swanberg. He’s really known for being one of the frontrunners of the mumblecore filmmaking movement. A movement centering around ultra-low budget and DIY filmmaking.

Many of the people around me know I have an appreciation for independent “indie” film. Unlike mainstream Hollywood, which churns out superhero, remake, and reboots over and over again, indie film offers a fresh perspective.

Joe Swanberg is most known for his films Drinking Buddies and Happy Christmas. A prolific filmmaker, he’s written+directed+produced 20+ films in the last decade. The first film I saw of his was Drinking Buddies and after that I was hooked.

There’s something so great about seeing someone stay scrappy when starting out and having a solid work flow to them. When he got up on the stage at SXSW, the first thing he said was “I want to talk about money, something that people need to start discussing more.”

Money can be an empowering tool 

It amazes me whenever people turn their noses when the topic of money comes up. Money doesn’t buy happiness. I’d rather be broke and happy than have lots of money and be miserable. We’ve all heard the often cited phrases putting down the discussion of money as something crass and not worth the time.

It doesn’t have to be this way. Money management and making money are two important things that need more discussion.

Due to collaborations and discussions with other filmmakers in his niche, Swanberg was able to get a better perspective on industry pay. He mentioned how if he hadn’t had these discussions about money, he wouldn’t have known his monetary worth.

You don’t get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate

After pitching and landing a gig producing a web series, Swanberg became more in tune with knowing his worth, understanding the power of his skills, and being able to negotiate good rates for his work. Throughout the run of the series, he kept understanding his worth and negotiating.

“I became aware people were watching this show and I should ask for more money. I was learning to be a negotiator and to stand up for myself and value my work.” 

Pay yourself first+invest in yourself

There’s a guideline rising in popularity in the personal finance world about paying yourself first. Automate your savings and spend what is left after saving, and not the other way around.

This concept was similar to what Swanberg talked about when discussing knowing your worth and investing in yourself.

“The only way you’re ever going to make any money is if you invest in your movies.” 

Aside from mentioning movies, the quote can apply to many different industries. It’s a concept I’ve been growing more into. Many people don’t like spending big amounts of money but if it’s really valuable and you know it will help you, get it, invest in it. This was was I told myself when I contemplated buying an e-course I really wanted. It was worth it!

Don’t half do two things, whole do one thing

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Day jobs. Ah, those two words conjure up mixed reactions. Some people are content with their’s while others feel restless with them. The ever so mentioned “9 to 5 day job”. Swanberg had a day job while making his first several films.

The films made money but none of them had been hugely profitable. Like many who have a strong presence in a project outside their 9 to 5, he contemplated how if he just had more time to devote to his films. He wanted to fully engage with the process of being a filmmaker.

“I had a day job when I made my first two movies. Then the realities of traveling the festival circuit with a feature film became so much that I had to decide: do I keep the day job and half engage with the process of being a filmmaker or do I quit the day job and fully engage with the process. I said screw it and and [focused on filmmaking].”

Yes day jobs hold their weight in being able to provide a steady paycheck, but they be something clung to out of desperation. If you have an inking of focusing more on a side project and have figured out different ways to go about making a living then go for it.

Happiness is money

When Swanberg talked about how happiness was money, my brain went around in loops. It was such obvious yet not so obvious advice at the same time. Time is money is the frequently mentioned phrase.

What about happiness and money?

“Time is money but I would also say happiness is money. It’s often not worth the money to take a shitty job on something you hate. Anytime I find myself making money doing something I hate, I fight with my wife more. I’m snippy with my kid. I look back and realize it wasn’t worth the money.” 

When you work and do something you really hate, you’re trading your happiness for money. Yes, I know working the ~~DrEaM job~~ is not always in the cards but don’t settle with staying in a job you hate.

Look for ways to earn income on the side, figure out an exit strategy. Don’t settle. It will cost you some of your happiness.

5 Things I Know to Be True About Money

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Lately I’ve developed a not so good habit of reading copious list articles on personal finance. You know the ones that go…

10 money things you need to know before turning 30

7 finance fundamentals you should know

8 ways to get better at money management

They’re addicting, aren’t they? This past weekend, I spent more time than I needed to scanning through LifeHack and Rockstar Finance reading several different list articles. I digress, it’s because I’m trying to learn more about finance and get better at managing and growing my money.

Throughout the trials and tribulations with life, I’ve learned something: being knowledgable about money is super duper important. I’ve always known this but have also resisted it. I would scribble down things I had spent money on for a certain day but then not want to actually go through with making a budget. I’d read about credit card rewards but then scurry away from them because I thought credit cards were horrible things to have.

Money is something we have to interact with everyday and whether we like it or not, many of our decisions involve money in some way or form.

As I’ve become more involved with my money and the personal finance world, I’ve learned some things. This list isn’t comprehensive of any and all money lessons (that’d take a while to talk about!). It’s just a few key takeaways I’ve learned so far.

1. Focus on building wealth in your early working years 

Building wealth and investing early is one of the most talked about things in the personal finance world. Most have seem the various charts showing 20-year old investor A and 40-year-old investor B. Investor A usually always comes out on top with more returns on their investments over the long run.

A while back while in my remaining semester for college, I was looking for information on retirement planning. I felt lost and needed actionable information. No one around me (twenty-somethings as well as older adults) talked about retirement planning.

Whenever I spoke about it with older adults in their 30-50’s, they would get this frightened look on their face and just say “Do it! Do it! Save anything you can!” over and over without giving any clear advice on how to go about doing it.

Things are moving along better now. I’ve been reading more about index funds, Lifehacker’s April money challenge, and even picked up The Index Card: Why Personal Finance Doesn’t Have to be Complicated (Loving it! Will write up a review on it soon)

2. Just because everyone else is buying the next “life” thing doesn’t mean you have to

When I graduated college (about 1.5 years ago), I continued to drive my rickety Ford Focus with 185,000+ miles on it. I knew I didn’t want to buy a new car and have to take on a car payment. So I made a savings goal and started putting money toward buying a preowned car in the future.

Everyone questioned me on this.

The most memorable occasion was when I was over at my mom’s house one day. My brother made a sly remark about how it was “embarrassing” that I was still driving my old car. He went on and talked about how I “needed to stop being cheap” and just go ahead and buy a new car. (This is a guy who bought a truck he didn’t need and wastes his money on irrelevant things every month).

Buying a house and financing a new car were two big things repeated over and over. A lot of people around my age started buying new cars, getting really nice apartments, and so forth.

Do I regret not taking on 20-30K in additional debt by getting a car? Heck no! Not being tied to a car payment is what helped ease the transition to moving to Thailand.

3. Having good credit is super important

The importance of good credit has really been ingrained in me recently. Having good credit is so critical to financial wellness. I’ve been vigilant and made sure to pay my bills on time and my credit card balance in full every month.

A person’s credit score is now even started to affect their employment prospects. W0o0w!

4.  Credit cards can be useful (i.e. not evil) things to have

All throughout high school and college, my parents as well as other adults would give horror stories about people saddled with high-interest credit credit card debt. Credit cards were made to seem like the devil’s advocate.

I would picture Janice Ian from Mean Girls whispering: Evil takes the plastic form with credit cards.

Credit cards are not evil. When used responsibly, they can be really beneficial.

There are three big benefits to using credit cards: building credit, security, and rewards! Resolving charges from getting a stolen credit card is easier than with a debit card. Credit cards provide a myriad of rewards based on the type you get and they help you build credit.

As long as you are responsible with them and pay your balance off in full every month, they are pretty useful things to have.

5. Finance wellness takes practice and patience

When I started getting into personal finance more, I quickly got discouraged. Everywhere I looked, I would read things about people having 10,000+ in their emergency funds, bloggers making 10K+ per month, people maxing out their IRA’s every year and so forth.

Reading all these success stories made me feel less than stellar with my efforts. Almost as if I was doing personal finance the “wrong way”. I’ve moved away from that bad feeling and follow something better now.

Do what you can, with what you have, where you are —Theodore Roosevelt

There are different stages to financial wellness and big things usually don’t happen overnight. The important thing is to just start. Make small steps towards a bigger goal. Everyone has to start somewhere.


I’m sure as time goes on, I will learn more “money truths”. I’m only 21 after all. Still a long way to go!

What are some things you know to be true about money? What has your journey in personal finance looked like? 

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The New American Dream

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What’s this “American Dream” all about? Judging from movies and the ever constant article about its relation to millennials, I think it went like this: work hard in high school and get good grades, go to *the best* college, again…get good grades, graduate, find a good-paying job, get married, buy a house in a suburb with a white picket fence, have 2-3 munchkins, continue working at your job for years to collect a pension+also count on social security to support you, and live happily ever after.

Hahahaha. Sorry,just writing it is funny. It’s interesting to see the shifts in perception millennials (and even younger Gen X-ers) have when it comes to the ever elusive “American Dream”.

Buying a house or…?

When I graduated college, I kept being told by my parents friends and other older adults that I needed to buy a house because “renting is throwing money away”. The statement isn’t quite true. People are doing several things rather than buying a house young.

The first of two big things going on is a lot more people nowadays are moving back home after graduating from college. It’s a buzzkill to relive in a childhood bedroom again but hey, the rent is too damn high and Sallie Mae wants her money.

The second big thing is the tiny house movement. It’s grown a lot in popularity with many articles and shows like Tiny House Hunters and Tiny House Nation covering it. I LOVE the tiny house movement. It’s one of my near goals to be able to build one of my own. 😉

SO MANY people buy houses before they’re ready. The concept of home is changing. One of the things that boggles my mind is the lack of affordable housing. It’s a strong reason why so many are still living with their parents, renting, or living in a tiny house/RV. Why are houses so massive nowadays?!?

Jobs & Stability

What do you define as a “stable job”?

My first thought is the tech industry, many think it’s this lucrative and stable career path yet companies all around are doing mass layoffs. I’ve started to see more and more articles about having an emergency fund with 3-6 months of expenses saved up. Layoffs seem to be happening more frequently than in years past.

With stagnant wages, job security woes, and mountains of debt, side hustles seem like an essential thing.

Retirement

Many people still appear to want to retire at the traditional age of 65. Pensions are for the most part a thing of the past. Every now and then, my mom and uncle (both in their sixties and retired) nag me about how I need to get a job with a pension because “these 401k’s aren’t working for people”.

It made me think about how my generation has to reallllyyy plan for retirement, something previous generations didn’t have to focus on as much. Despite the retirement crisis and social security woes, people still aren’t actively taking charge of retirement planning (<—-amusing article, go read it, I’ll wait).

People appear to be more focused on keeping up with the norm: buying a large house, new cars (with *all* the extras), and $10-15 drinks at the bar.

Kids

So many people ask me when I am planning on having kids, how many I want and so forth. It’s strikes me as a little odd since I’m a 21 years old and single. Nonetheless, it’s worth pointing out kids are super expensive. Really, really, expensive. (#RIPwallet).

The amount of kids people are having is decreasing and some are opting to not have any at all. Whether or not a CNN Money estimate is accurate is beside the point. Raising a kid is expensive. People are becoming more aware of this nowadays.


What’s your american dream? Not sure? I’ll tell you mine…

My personal american dream:

  • Be as financially literate as possible and aware of where my money is going
  • Have a healthy emergency fund at all times (3-9 months expenses depending on where I am in life)
  • Work a job in a career I enjoy, that propels me forward
  • Not have a mortgage control me (Not opposed to buying a house, but when I do it will be something I know I can afford and manage)
  • Be conscious and weighing the options when taking on debt
  • Max out my Roth IRA ever year (not going to happen this year because of debt payoff but within 2-3 years I want to start maxing it out every year)
  • Never let a flashy ad or society encourage me to take on debt I don’t need

There are more, but those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head. Plus I didn’t want the list getting too long, haha.

What do you think about previous depictions of the “american dream” vs. today’s definition? What’s your idea of “the american dream? 

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Small Ways to Save without Cutting Lattes

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Is there anything better than sipping on a morning cup of coffee after a groggy wake up? Rolling out of bed after hitting the snooze button three times. It’s one of those days where things just aren’t working. Mornings are crunch time and you have to get out the door before traffic gets bad. The only redeeming quality for this time is stopping by your nearest Starbucks or Dunkin’ Donuts to pick up that sweeeet and joyful latte.

It’s the the little things, right? Right.

Despite your addicting latte habit, you’re trying to save some money. There are the big ticket items to go through (cutting cable, eating out, looking for ways to save on car insurance) but what about the small stuff? I like to call them money leaks.

Money leaks are areas where you don’t really notice your money slipping away. If you’re a person without a budget (which let’s be honest, most don’t have one), then the money is gone before you fully realize it.

*cue the horror showdown that happens when you look at your bank account*

I wonder what amounts like an extra $30 or $50 or even $100 per month could bring me. Right now it’s all about paying off student loans. Maybe it’s different for you.

Subscriptions 

I love Spotify, I mean I really love it. It’s playlists make it so much better than Pandora. It just gets me, ya know? Haha. Anyways, despite the love, I recently cut it. I mainly used it for ambient music while working and dealing with ads wasn’t as bad as I thought. $10.81 per month saved.

Photoshop was the next thing I cut. I did graphic design stuff in college and used it a lot. As time went on, I realized using things like PicMonkey or Affinity Photo are cheaper alternatives. $10.81 per month saved.

I’m willing to bet, subscription expenses have risen for many people. There are clothing and jeweler services like Bombfell and Roxbox and magazine, music, cloud storage, and other subscriptions that can drain away money.

I saved $21.62 per month eliminating some of my subscriptions, how much can you save?

Drinks

I’m not just talking about alcoholic beverages here. I used to go to the grocery store and get those individual packs of beverages to drink.Snapple’s only cost one dollar, so I would load up on them.

Have people forgotten about drink mixes? Koolaid! That Country Hill lemonade stuff I always see. With these you can make quarts and have beverages for only a handful of change each.

Also, next time you go to the bar for happy hour with friends, just get a water or cranberry juice, it’s cheaper and you’re morning self will thank you. 🙂

Memberships

Be honest with yourself, do you ever actually use your gym membership? You saw that New Years crossfit commercial, dropped the candy and ran to the nearest gym to sign up. Now it’s March and you’ve only been once.

Personally I still have a gym membership since I regularly attend it. My membership is to Planet Fitness and it only costs $21.70 per month. Super affordable compared to most others.

Evaluate whether you use your gym membership or not. There are lots of free workout/yoga/zumba workouts online. Consider looking into lower cost gyms as well.

Expensive Cell Phone Plans

Why. Do. People. Pay. So.Much. For. Their. Cell.Phones???

Seriously though, people spend a ridiculous amount on their cell phone plans every month. Did you know the average American now spends around $110 per month on their cell phones.

I’m with Cricket and I spend $35 a month (taxes and fees included). I get unlimited talk/text and 2.5gb high speed data. Check out Cricket, Republic Wireless, or Ting if you want to lower your cell phone bill.

Credit Card Interest

I don’t have much experience with this considering how I just got my first credit card back in October and it has 0% APR for the first year. But my personal banker did tell me people throw away money on credit card interest a lot. The best way to combat this is to call the company and see if there are any promotional offers or other ways to lower your interest rate.


I’m still looking into different ways money “leaks” from my bank account. I’m stopped renting Redbox movies, don’t get “convenience foods” at the grocery store or gas station as much and cut down on my subscriptions.

I still get to get my morning coffee! Granted I don’t go to Starbucks every weekday (more like 1-2 times a week), it’s still nice to find ways to cut expenses without sacrificing coffee runs.

What are ways you’ve cut expenses? Do you still drink+enjoy a morning latte? 

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